Love this disc. The distance driver version of a firebird. Don't think there's anything as good. Primarily flick player I'll get this thing 350-400. Don't have to worry about it flipping over even in wind and know it will fade but not nose dive. Won't get overly glidey on me which is good too. 

This is my go to for a distance driver. They make this sound like it's going to be a total meat hook utility type disc but for me I get a very reliable long straight flight that has a manageable fade at the end. I like to use this disc for a nice open fairway where I can rip it on anhyzer and get a full S-curve flight. As of right now this is my only disc I can reliably throw 400 feet. I absolutely love this disc. I would not recommend it for a beginner at all only because it is a higher speed driver and it requires a mix of power and proper technique to throw it well. If you have any flaws in your release angle or velocity this disc will just hyzer out at around 200-250 and leave you well short. For an advanced or even a strong intermediate I would recommend this disc for your bag. Overall a great disc and one I really enjoy throwing!

I am very much a beginner, just making the switch from Ultimate over to disc golf. I happened to pick up a Paul McBeth Force in a local shop not really knowing what I was getting. I want to love this disc. It is super fun to throw rollers with (probably not what it's meant for haha). I don't have the arm strength for it yet but I can get a super fun and nice s curve on it. 

The Discraft Paul McBeth 4x signature force (idk if mine is z or elite z) is a super overstable driver that I would recommend to advanced players as a potential staple disc, or to beginners as a utility disc. For me, as a younger player, it serves the second purpose. The only time when I'll pull out this disc most likely is when I need a shot that will take a big flare skip, as it's kind of like a firebird but with a wider rim, so it's great for skip shots. I also would pull this out in windy situations but the plastic is just too stiff and slippery for me. Maybe I just got a bad run, but my discs in Innova's champion plastic, which is what this plastic would compare to, are like twice as grippy as this. For advanced players, I could see this serving as a disc for placement drives and windy situations, but I would recommend getting this in a grippier and more quality plastic