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    Westside VIP Sampo

    3.6
    (20 Reviews)
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    The Westside Sampo is a stable/overstable driver that was released in the players pack for the 2015 Trilogy Challenge. This distance driver is overstable enough to handle big throws and will finish with a healthy degree of fade at the end of the flight.

    Manufacturer Flight Numbers 10.0/4.0/-1.0/2.0
    Reviewer Flight Numbers 9.8/4.5/-0.8/2
    Our Price:
    $16.99

    VIP Details

    VIP plastic is a beautiful translucent plastic that is extremely durable and feels great. This plastic is comparable to Dynamic Discs Lusic plastic or Latitude 64 Opto. 

    Sampo Dimensions

    • Diameter: 21.20 cm
    • Height: 1.90 cm
    • Rim Depth: 1.20 cm
    • Rim Width: 2.10 cm
    • Max Weight: N/A

    Additional Information

    • Primary Use: Distance Driver
    • Stability: Overstable
    • Recommended Skill Level: Intermediate, Advanced
    • Plastic grade(s): Durable, Premium
    • Beadless

    Reviews

    Michael Bacon
    My Flight Ratings: 10/4/-1/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Apr 27, 2020 10:52 AM

    I forgot to add this disc does not have the high turn or high fade of an Orc, so technically it is more stable. It has more turn than a Thunderbird and less fade.

    Michael Bacon
    My Flight Ratings: 10/4/-1/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Apr 27, 2020 10:36 AM

    I throw RHFH. I throw a VIP 175 gram. This is my go to disc. More overstable than an Orc. Excellent in wind conditions. Stands up to headwinds. Stands up better to a headwind than a Innova Thunderbird. Does not lift up into headwinds like Thunderbird. Doesn't get the glide like a Thunderbird with a tailwind. The distance difference is negligible.  I play in the windiest region in the country. Kinda fed up with the wind actually. But all my disc choses hold up to windy conditions. Very slight turn. Predictably fade.  Reliable in all conditions. Feel similar to Champion plastic. Will hold the turn on an anny throw probably because of diameter of disc. A 2 fade rating is pretty accurate. I throw discs with high fades instead of throwing hyzer shots. Feels good in hand. Smooth bottom easy release disc. 

    Discintime
    My Flight Ratings: 10/4/-0.5/2.5 Terrible for Beginners Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jan 07, 2020 10:35 AM

    I used two variants of this disc. The Trilogy challenge one and the VIP stock version. The Trilogy challenge disc is very overstable showing zero turn while the VIP stock stamp is much straighter showing a little high speed turn with a reliable fade.

    The VIP plastic you can get this in now is superb of course. Among the best on the market. Really nice and grippy but not floppy either.

    This is kind of a weird spot for me in that 10 speed range which I don't really throw otherwise I'd consider keeping it in the bag. 

    Dean_934
    My Flight Ratings: 10/4/-2/0.5 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 01, 2019 08:13 AM

    I threw a friend's VIP Sampo with thought of trading for it, and it did not work out very well. It was a bit beat in, but definitely still in good condition. I don't have a great arm (300'), and it was turning into a roller when put on a hyzer line even in a tailwind. It could be a good understable fairway driver for beginners, but unless it's for rollers, anybody with any arm speed will probably not find a use for it.

    Meow Power
    My Flight Ratings: 8/4/-1/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Nov 14, 2018 13:07 PM

    I was told to check out the Westside Sampo as a more reliable Northman, but I didn't really like it. It does have very similar numbers to the Northman and I can attest to it being more stable, but the diameter of the disc is much smaller which makes it lose out on a lot of glide. The Sampo is almost comparable to a beat in Teebird by Innova. It just was not a great mold for me because it got to the ground too quickly. 

    Moose
    My Flight Ratings: 10/4/-1/2.5 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Sep 20, 2018 12:38 PM

    I missed the TC the year these came out, and just didn't try to catch up... until I saw one of the old TC ones on sale and I thought what the heck?

    I'll give this guy a shot. Glad I did, it's a good stable disc with very slight turn a good fade. Really nice for control shots at about 80% of max D. Mine is the OOP elasto plastic, not VIP. So it's possibly slightly more OS than the current production rugs. 

    It's got a touch of skip if you throw it on a hyzer too. 

    Jessy Catterwaul
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/-0.5/1.5 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Feb 04, 2018 07:54 AM

    I think this is a highly underrated disc! It's my favorite off-the-tee driver: very versatile! I love the steampunk stamp too, and that Westside has chosen to go with the idea that the mythical "Sampo" is actually a golf disc. :D

    I never tried the one from the Trilogy Challenge: that original Elasto run sounds more to me like the Fortress, than what Sampos are like now. Now, it's an ever slightly more stable Northman; a lightly beat-in Sampo flies like a Northman. I used to bag a Northman but for my arm speed, these two are so close that I just go with the Sampo now. (And then I turn to the Hatchet for more understable needs. The Northman came from a time before these other discs existed.) Again, the stamps are themed well too: the Northman is working on the Sampo in the artwork featured on his own disc.

    For straight drives, I throw the Sampo right in between the distances I throw my Seer or Sword. For their intended distances, all those discs can display minimal turn and fade. Going out one speed further, we're talking the same scaled flight patterns as those of the Sling and Sorcerer. That is, most of what you'll need to throw on a course.

    If I need a mix of long distance and control, and don't need a hard fade (which is most tee shots at most courses), I'm probably grabbing my Sampo. If you're a Westside fan, and especially if you love the Northman, like I do: check this disc out!

    Mat82
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Nov 08, 2016 20:08 PM

    I got a trilogy challenge sampo. It is straight with a healthy amount of fade. The new VIP sampos are totally different then the trilogy challenge ones. The production run is straight to understable. I like the trilogy challenge sampo a bit better cause it is better for the Texas winds.

    Ryan Lemaster
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Nov 06, 2016 15:03 PM

    I got my Sampo about 4 months ago and have had it in my bag since. It's one of those discs you can angle down (backhand) and rip it and it will stand up and have a slight turn then fade back or lay off of it and it will go straight with a fade. I found that it's very wind sensitive and also not good for my forehand as I like to throw hard. It's usually good for 300ft shots but it can be finicky. It's a disc that will stay in my bag for a while. If you get one just give it time and you'll learn to throw it. 

     

    Larry Searles
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/-0.5/3 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Sep 23, 2016 05:59 AM

    Got this disc at the Trilogy a couple of years ago. This is a stable to overstable driver. It has nice distance and glide with a strong controllable fade to the left for a right hand backhand thrower. This is a good starter disc to throw if you are stepping up to higher speed drivers because it is not so overstable that it is a meat hook. Rim is not so big so it will work well for smaller hands.

    KeithHowe
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/-0.5/2 Terrible for Beginners Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Aug 18, 2016 13:49 PM

    Profile: I have to say I really like the feel of this disc.  Not too domey, not too thick of a rim, good depth too.

    Flight: Slower, more controllable beat in Trespass.  That best describes this flight.  I do get some turn out of it and a reliable fade at the end.  I find this to be too much of a tweener disc as far as it's speed goes. Either I want something slower and more controllable or faster to get more distance.

    Comparison: Like I said slower Trespass

    Final thoughts: This didn't make my bag due to my inconsistencies with it.

     

    Cody Duncan
    My Flight Ratings: 9/4/-0.5/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Aug 08, 2016 20:36 PM

    First let me start out by saying the grip on this disc is amazing!  I am a prodominatly forearm thrower  and for me (on a forearm) this disc is slightly understable. Thrown flat at some speed it flys very straight with nice turn at the finish. It reacts very well on high speed shots and very consistant. On my backhand however it becomes pretty stable. I Can still achieve good distance around the 200-250 range. For me it's a great utility driver and will always have a spot in my bag!

    theKwBarker
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Not Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jul 20, 2016 10:11 AM

    The grip on this disc is superb. Feels very good in the hand, the rim is small and not sharp. 

    This disc is very stable, I would say the flight path graph thing is slightly off. It is a straight flight with no deviation to the right (RHBH) and with a sharper fade at the end. As such this disc makes great for a good flick disc, I have a hard time getting enough power behind it with my back hand throws. 

    Distance wise it does well.  I am able to get some decent distance with a back hand throw. When I flick I get about 20-50 feet more out of the disc, which I think is pretty typical. 

    Overall this disc is a very dependable disc, it is consistant. 

    Stefan
    My Flight Ratings: 9/5/-1/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 26, 2016 09:54 AM

    I love this disc, and I hate it at the same time. I currently bag 4 Sampos, all varying in their level of stability, as listed below. 

    175 Orange VIP Sampo - 9, 5.5, -2, 1.5 (this disc has the lowest parting line of any of the Sampos in which I currently have, and it is fairly beat in as well)

    173 Blue Elasto Sampo - 9, 5, -1, 2

    173 Black Sparkle Elasto Sampo - 9, 5, 0, 2 (the HSS is a zero to me, but when thrown into a fairly strong head wind it starts to show some turn)

    174 Teal Sprarkle Elasto Sampo - 9, 4.5 , 0, 2.5 (the HSS is a solid zero for this disc. I can throw it into a very strong head wind, and it maybe starts to look like it wants to begin to turn, but it does not)

    Although there is a good amount of variance in the flight paths of the same disc, as is usual for Westside discs the flight path is extremely smooth for each  permutation of this mold that I bag (none of them start to turn right away after it leaves your hand, nor do any of them have a very hard, knifey fade at the end of the flight), which I feel really helps to extend how long the disc is in the air, which results in more overall distance.

    I obviously love the consistency I can get through carry one mold that I use as a primary driver, but it scares me with how much variance in the flight ratings each of these discs shows; and I have a feeling it is going to be quite hard to replace any of these discs. I have another fresh VIP Sampo, and after it beats in a little more I could see it flying exactly like the VIP Sampo I currently bag. For the more stable Elasto Sampos, the only thing in which I have noticed that the Sparkle Elasto plastic is a good amount more OS than it's non-sparkle brethren. I hope I am on to something with this, in case I do need to replace some of the Elasto Sampos that I currently bag. I also hope that Westside continues to produce the Sampo in Elasto plastic as well, as opposed to discontinuing producing in this plastic after the supply from the Trilogy Challenge has been used up. Either way, I'm being careful with the ones that I currently bag just in case!  

    BigCountry83
    My Flight Ratings: 9/5/-2/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 19, 2016 17:16 PM

    It hurts me to give a Westside Discs a poor grade, as I am a huge fan of Westside (their drivers especially) but the Sampo is just nowhere near what the advertised flight says. I have thrown some the original Elasto Sampos from the Trilogy and they are almost completley different discs, albiet with the same feel.

     

    The current run of Sampos flies more like a longer, faster Leopard than the Teebird-ish flight that Westside suggests. A bummer, but by no means a bad disc. It's a bit fast for a fairway driver slot, but it does hyzer flip to fade easily. Good glide, and feels good in the hand. It's a great sort of "do it all" driver...a jack of all trades and master of none, if you will.

    Will Will
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Mar 16, 2016 23:12 PM

    I have to agree with galileo761. This disc will turn and burn pretty easily. I throw a lot of sidearm and even with a very strong anheiser into a moderate breeze and the thing flips and dives. Even on still days it's nice for long straight drives but even then I don't trust it. 

    galileo761
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Feb 20, 2016 20:23 PM

    I picked this disc up based solely on the flight numbers. I was looking for an overstable control driver that could handle a headwind. I throw 80% of my drives forehand and average 300' to 325'. I am a grandmaster age player, so I don't have a big arm. I found this disc to be very understable! Had to back way off to get a somewhat straight flight out of it. Even when thrown backhand, if there was any headwind, had way more turn than the numbers would suggest. Maybe the one I picked up was a fluke, but I can not recommend this disc.

    Mountaindewm
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Terrible for Beginners Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Oct 29, 2015 09:13 AM

    I personally got a Elasto plastic from a Trilogy challenge.  After throwing it in the tourny and a bit after the tournament I personally feel it has way to much Fade and not enough turn for beginners.  I normally don't throw drivers with no Turn so I personally don't prefer but am going to try to test it out a lot more before I just put it away forever.

    This disc however can put thrown on big Anhyzer bombs and it will come out and finish flat or going back left quite often.  Like I said though that just isn't my play style and I prefer a much more controllable Rok 3 or Buzz for that type of shot.

    Jace Smellie
    My Flight Ratings: 10/5/0/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Oct 14, 2015 10:02 AM

    So I had an Elasto Sampo from the Trilogy Challenge. Unfortunately, that disc is now sitting at the bottom of Lake Kennel where I threw it in a practice round for Ledgestone. However, I enjoyed this disc a lot while I had it. The Sampo originally reminded me a lot of my Boatman--Very straight flight with a predictable hard fading finish. I enjoyed this disc both for forehand and backhand shots that were just a little shorter than what I would pull out my max distance drivers for. I'm not sure that I will ever replace this disc because I still have my Boatman that fills this spot in my bag, but I think this is a very usable disc that lots of golfers could find a place for in their bag.

    Reniger
    My Flight Ratings: 10/6/-1/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Oct 02, 2015 08:49 AM

    The plastics are quite a huge difference. The Elasto is quite soft and gummy, the VIP is much firmer with slightly less grip. 

    You can see the difference plastic can make easily by examining Reptilian discs. A Gateway Wizard in Reptilian Fossil plastic will come up with a MUCH tighter shoulder than any of Gateway's "Soft" plastics, and as a result, the Reptilian plastic flies faster  even from the same mold. Same with Reptilian's Fossil plastic Scales vs Armor plastic. The premium Armor plastic pops up more, making the disc overall a few MM smaller, and having a dome which leads to more glide and a little more overstability.

    Back to the Sampo! The Elasto is very straight along the rim, but then pops up as soon as you come ot the flight plate. The VIP is the same height overall, but the contour is very smooth with no "pop top." The VIP mold feels very similar, just in firmer plastic, but the flight is quite different. I can throw the Elasto on a hard anhyzer and get a long flexing shot for about 340', or create great spike hyzers that hold a beautiful OS line. My first throw with the VIP, it didn't turn and burn, but there is definitely more turn. Thrown flat, I get about the same flight as the Elasto, without having to push the anhyzer, making a much easier throw with less effort. Honestly, the flight is different enough that I could see some people bagging both if they like the mold just because of how much different play you can get out of both. I would compare them as follows; Elasto: 10, 6, .5, 2.5 - VIP: 10, 6, -1, 2.

    The VIP will still fight out of an anhyzer almost as well as Elasto and still has plenty of overstability, but is a bit more shapeable. I enjoy both and we'll see which gets the permanent spot in my bag after a few more rounds.

    Cheers.

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