I'm a very casual player, but this is one is my longstanding favorite driver. I hope they bring them (or something similar) back into production at some point. It works perfectly for my right hand forehand. I can get good distance from it without having to push as hard to put a ton of force into the throw. Another reviewer pointed out that the flight pattern is a bit different from other discs. This is accurate. I actually prefer this though. It's really just fantastic. Hopefully they make more someday!

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with the previous reviewer of this disc, but perhaps both of us are spinning our wheels with the mold out of production. As far as I can tell, Latitude 64 is the first company to have ever attempted a Speed 15 disc. It feels weird to say, and feels strange to type out. Obviously, this is a boundary not yet crossed by any other manufacturer, at least legally as far as the PDGA is concerned. It's a bold step forward, and I honestly believe that we'll crack the code for speed 15 and maybe even 16 drivers in the future. We're too smart, and too stubborn to stop as a species and just sit still while we appreciate what we have. The seedy, loan sharking, pessimistic elephant in the corner does rear its head in the funniest little way, though. I very much hope that this disc was an actual scientific effort made to push the game into the next age. Having said that, I'm getting some serious Marketing-Ploy vibes. That's not an accusation, not yet, anyway. It's just similar to a fifth grader doing the dishes in lieu of a bad report card. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to tell you how its totally not a speed 15 and all that garbage. How often do you read a review for a speed 12 plus distance driver and read on nearly EVERY review 'This is totally not a speed 15 hurr-durr'. That's right, you don't. But I will say, this thing is weird. That's not necessarily bad, all things considered, its the first of its kind. That makes a lot of sense. It seems at lower speeds it will meat hook or softly bend s-a-aways depending, surprisingly, more so on the angle of release then the speed. Absolutely torqued, it seems like it is just vibrating to get that extra little bit of distance. It's a weird flight, I would almost say it's jumpy. Maybe its the hex patterns on the disc, or the fact that its really pushing that benchmark for the 2.5 cm rim limit. Maybe it's maybelline. It's a very different type of driver, and it is very fast. However, I disagree with the rest of the stats that not only the reviewers but the factory gives it. Keep in mind I am by no means a manufacturer or a professional, these are just my thoughts. A glide of 3 isn't quite right in my own estimation, and in complete honesty mine is very well beaten in so that may make a difference as well. I don't bag this disc, and if I were forced to I would use it as a bomber meant to eat up headwinds. Maybe. To conclude, if I could, I commend Latitude 64 for pioneering the development of this disc with a five star review. Unfortunately, the disc just isn't that great. It's unreliable at lower speeds, and finicky when you give it the beans. I give the company five stars for their attempt, but the disc three. We'll call it even at four. 

PROS: The first real shot a company has given in claiming a speed 15 benchmark.

CONS: There are very many, much improved and refined drivers awaiting our big throws. The disc isn't that high of quality. 

Just bought a used one of these and my thoughts on the disc were pretty instantly as follows:

• Definitely not a speed 15. If you were to throw this disc at a 15, it'd turn into the ground (unless possibly extreme hyzer-flipping it).
• I lump this at maybe a 12 speed (but take into consideration I'm throwing a beat-in, used disc) as I'm able to turn it under maybe a -1 or -1.5. I don't have a cannon arm whatsoever.
• This is the thinnest disc that Lat 64 makes, it's got great feel and there are two spots on the flight plate that are not dimpled with the golf-ball etching where your thumb can rest for good grip.
• I'd compare this disc very similarly to a Discmania DDx in feel, but definitely less glide and won't pull under quite as much as a DDx.

Very fun disc, I will continue to throw it. So unique!

Personally im not a fan of the look and feel of the textured grip. however there is no reason not to like this disc for what it is. You need some crazy arm speed/Strength to make this thing work. I just feel there are better options out there for the jolly green giants that can actual throw this sort of thing.   

If you have a good throwing arm, like I, this disc is pretty good for anhyzer shots. Love this disc. Farthest drive with it is around 350 feet. Great Disc!

Such a high speed disc with a very unique design with a rough mold that brings in grip pads.

Well, what can I say... this is a HIGH speed distance driver and if you don't have the armspeed you will not get everything you want out of this disc. Can you find uses for it even if you dont have the speed 15 arm speed? Sure you can. you can always make a slot for it in your bag just so that you can show it off to the guys on the course. But unless you have a rocket attached to your shoulder I don't think you actually need this disc there are plenty of other discs out there that could be of better use for you.

Is it a bad disc? No ,not at all. However, I had no use for it because my arm is clearly not meant to throw such a high speed disc.  But I am sure there are people who can throw this and to them it might be a fantastic disc.

Love this disc been in the bag for 4 years was benched for awhile and pulled back out for big headwinds. You don't need a big arm to throw this just know when to use it I do not and can still get 300 feet 

This is the best long distance disc!

This disc has it's uses, but for the long backhand drives this disc needs a seriously powerful arm. I use it mainly for thomahawk throws and forehand curves. Occasionally I'll use it for those high hyzer throws. You can always count on this one to fade nicely in, 

I keep it in the bag simply because no other disc that I know of will do what this does.

The rim on this disc is HUGE, which is expected. The opto hex plastice is a different feel. They do have some spots where it is normal opto plastic and it is flat, its like a thumb spot. The grip for the disc is a little uncomfortable due to the huge rim.

The stability of this disc is ridiculous, I have a hard time throwing this disc well. The stability of this disc makes it great for head wind throws. It has a spot in my bag as a utility driver. The shapeability of this disc is almost impossible to manipulate. The times that I get it to release and see it on an anhyzer line it leaves it almost instantly. Basically I'll use it to get a little bit extra distance. 

As it is the fastest disc on the planet I have not been able to throw it as fast I have been able to throw it as it needs to be thrown. As such I am not able to throw it that far due to it fading out on me early. 

Overall this disc is not a good distance driver, unless you have a beastly arm. For me this disc is a utility driver. 

This disc is incredibly fast, and pretty overstable. Were not talking about how a Giant or Ape is overstable, more like a Star Boss or Z Nuke Overstable. 

For me that makes it a bit of a tweener. Not distance wise, but in terms of stability.

I like my FH drivers to be a little more of the stable size and usually bag Apes or Phases, this is not there, and if thrown flat I often found it rolling. With a mild Hyzer it would flip up ride to the left a long way and have a small fade. 

My backhand is not quite as powerful, and I usually throw Kings for max D around 420ft. I could get the Misselin out there pretty good, but never hit 400 with it, it was just a tick too much for me. If I liked the grip better It might be worth beating one into the bomber I feel it could be. 

But though I don't mind the initial feel of the Hex pattern, it actually feels kind of nice. Once it has been thrown a bit and starts to get the oils from your hands and debris from the ground in the little hex dips it starts to feel weird and a little slick. 

I'm sure there are people who would love this thing, and get turned off by the hex as a gimmick. Don't let that happen, if you like things like Bosses and Rampages this could be a good disc for you and the Hex pattern is actually kind of nice. 

But discs like this are finicky and certainly not for everyone. 

Great overstable disc for those with a powerful arm. If you do it will do as advertised and go straight for days with a solid fade on the end making for great wide open drives into a bank of trees.

This disc is not for beginners.  When I first got this disc a year ago, it was an uncontrollable meathook.  Since then, I have gotten stronger and it has been broken in a bit.  Now I love it. It is by far my longest distance driver if thrown with a slight anhyzer release.  It does not seem to react much in wind, no matter which direction it is blowing.  Be careful though.  If your release angle is slightly off, it can turn and burn or fade hard and early. When you find the right angle, it will give you some absolute monster drives.

The numbers seem to be accurate on the Missilen. Very thin profile with a wide rim. Super fast, stable flier. Not much glide. Takes a LOT of arm to get the Missilen to turn over even the slightest bit. The disc definitely loses distance due to stability and lack of glide. That said, it's a very capable, long flier that handles wind well. Beginners should probably steer clear of this one unless they want a disc for sharp hyzers. It's overstable and lacks glide. 

This disc is an interesting beast, it's fast certainly, but but I think the 15 speed is a vast exaggeration. Just ot test I took it to the batting cage I coach and and ran the speed gun against it, the Rask, Ape and Katana jsut to see. All of the discs were falling in between 69-77 MPH but the Rask was routinely the fastest and the Katana and Missilen were ususalluy slower. 

Thrown with max effort forehand I had to hit a very precice hyzer flip to get good distance, and wind effected it more than I expected. Honestly it got pretty suqirrely with a 20 mph crosswind. It got up to 425 for me a couple of times, but flipped and rolled a few and turned and didn't come back a few as well

Backhand I liked it, but my power is not quite as good as FH. I hit around 340-370 on all throws with a predictable fade, but I can thow smaller rimmed discs like the Wraith father more consistentley.

I think this is kind of a tweener disc really. New players who don't have the arm spped will find it to be too overstable, and many high powered players will think it is too unpredictable. 

For the record the plastic is great and I actulaly liked the hex tech, it made the disc grippier for me in the wet and didn't slide out so much. Would like to see if the Raketan is better for my BH throws possibly since that feature though gimmiky was actually kind of cool to me. 

The Missilen was fast, that is for sure. I don't think I would call this the fastest disc on the market, but it is very fast. Out of the hand, it holds a line pretty well, but it has a lot of stability to it. It will take a lot of power to get this disc to do what it was meant to do. It reminds me of a Star Boss in flight path, a bomber that needs a bit of strength to get behind.

My 3 star review is because the disc is inconsistent. As with all super fast drivers, it is hard to control the amount of stability when discs are made to fly so fast. I also hate the feel of the disc. The "Hexagon" pattern is just terrible feeling in my hand, and I dread the day I would have to throw one of these in wet conditions. It gives you 2 small areas to put your hands without that horrible feeling Hex pattern, but even then my hand doesn't quite stay completely in the smooth part that was made for grip.

I gave this disc a glide rating of 4 rather than 3 because this disc in no way has a glide of 3. This would suggest that the disc is slowly dropping out of the sky during the entire flight path, and has the same stability as a Firebird or Gator. The Missilen could arguably even have a glide of 5 because to me it didn't have any less glide than other 5 glide discs like the Boss, Destroyer, Trespass, etc.

I think the stability rating was a little much as well. The Missilen was supposed to have equivalent stability to an XCaliber, Ape, and Enforcer, but it was nowhere near that. The Missilen goes really far and then hooks up at the end, unlike any of these discs.

Overall I think you really have to like the feel of the Missilen (or Raketen) to get behind and throw one of these. If you're looking to try the Missilen, expect something like a boss. Fast with a lot of stability.

My newest favorite! I somewhat recently added this disc to my bag to try it out and it has quickly becoming my go-to driver. It is SOO fast. This glide rating is pretty true but what I have found is that it does not need to glide as much to gain distance because its speed is so high. It is an overstable driver but it is not as overstable as a Westside Giant or World. I can get this disc to pop up and fly dead straight or have a slight S curve and then finish with a dependable hard fade at the end. I recently played a round in some pretty unpredicable wind conditions and I threw this on almost every long distance drive. It flew as if the wind wasn't even there. 

I have a 174g Optohex Missilen. I like it so much I just ordered a second one so I have a backup.

I absolutely love this disc, I carry a slightly beat 172g for pure distance and a newer max weight for wind fighting power. The numbers don't quite do it justice, is say it has a bit more glide and its fast enough to turn a bit on a full powered throw before coming back. And it will always come back, but not so hard as to scare the faint of heart. I don't find the wide rim or grip for the thumbs to be an issue for backhanded drives, it always comes out of the hand cleanly and quickly for me. Its one of my most reliable over stable drivers and even powers down well for shorter holes. I reach for this disc whenever there's a headwind and I want peace of mind that my disc will find its way to the basket, or whenever I want to go right around the trees and let the disc's natural fade carry towards the basket. Bottom line: its not nearly as scary as you think. Give it a whirl, its much more than a novelty disc in my bag.

Awesome disc. Top three i carry. not beginner friendly. Its glide is vertually nonexistant. Feels great though. If you have the power it is a very fun disc to use

Opto Hex 172/X-Out Opto Hex 172. This is a very complex disc. I would not recommend for anybody that is just starting out or does not have a big arm. Flight speed is a 15 but plays more as a 12-13 for RHBH. A good BH roller as well. This disc is for big hyzer arms. I have never flipped it up and it gone right, normally just flips up and goes straight and then ends big right. Big arms probalay can get more then a 3 glide out of it. Overall a good disc for advanced players, not so much for beginners.

The Missilen is EXTREMELY fast and reliably stable at the end of flight.  You need to have a good amount of snap on your throw to get the proper flight out of the Missilen - perfect for sidearm throwers with above average power. 

If you release the Missilen fast and flat it will hold a straight line for a good distance and then fade hard right (RHFH) towards the end of flight.  Not really enough glide on this disc for me to successfully throw big "S" turns, but this is often my first choice when I need a long straight drive that is stable at the end of flight.  Does well in windy conditions.

I'm still amazed by how much distance the Missilen covers in a short amount of time.  The Opto plastic is very durable - only a couple of tiny scuffs after months of play and numerous collisions with trees, concrete, metal, etc...

I highly recommend the Missilen for Intermediate to Advanced players with strong arms. 

Bought this as a compliment to the Westside World. Where the World would go under normal conditions I wanted the Missilen to goin a hurricane. Believe it or not, that worked exactly how I wanted it to... I throw RHFH. Flies faster than 14 even just watching with the naked eye. So overstable you look behind you to see where it landed. So sharp on the rim that you're scared you might cut yourself throwing it. Dimply enough you'll think it's you at senior prom. Love every minute of it.

I normally throw a Halo and was a little weary getting this but holy dang... This is one heck of a disc. Normally I get the halo to fly relatively straight with a hard fade at the end however with this misselin it takes a while but loves to make that perfect "S" curve... I have not been playing long but this disc easily pushed me closer to 400' drives. It is now my go to driver for almost everything

Terrific disc for me. I was always scared of buying one, as I had been told that you need a crazy arm to throw it. I've found this not to be true at all. My max drives without wind or downhill are in the low 400s (RHFH), but I can easily control this disc. I put a nice anhyzer on it and it will hold the line for a long time before coming back. I feel like it plays, overall, pretty similarly to my Westside World discs, so I have a new favorite in the bag! While it can handle very high speed, very high speed is not required, and it glides much better than expected, with less overstability than than predicted from the numbers.

Had the opportunity to try out a used Missilen.  Weight is 174g.  Bottom line is that at this time it's too much disc for my noodle arms, even into the wind and downhill.

The other issue I have with the disc, and the reason for posting this review, is the grip.  The hexagon technology is nice but it's slippery.  There are two areas of plain plastic for the thumb to grip on top of the disc.  Problem is that these areas are too far inward, not enough near the edge, and my window to hold it was exceptionally narrow.  In addition to that, of course I'm thinking more of my grip than my throw mechanics when throwing the disc, leading to uncertaintly and doubt and poor throwing technique.  That inward grip is technically correct, but when I do that I can't get the anhyzer I need in order to get anything but a left-leaning-crash-and-burn out of the disc.

All-in-all, this may be a great disc for power throwers, but until they fix that grip issue I can't rate this disc any higher.

Me and a friend have several missilens in between us and have thrown them a lot. I have consistent 400 ft power rhbh and when I really get into the missilen releasing it dead flat it GOES usually 450-500in no wind conditions. Further with a tailwind. The only thing about this disc is it doesn't quiet match the flight ratings in my opinion during the flight. At the end of the flight it crashes hard left but when I get good distance it rides waaaay to the right before crashing left. I've also found this disc a little touchy and am able to turn it over when I release on any anhyzer whatsoever. I don't throw this disc when I need control shots but when I need something that will go very very far and I have open air to work with I choose the missilen every time top disc for max distance in calm conditions or with a tail wind. I love my missilens!

I have owned several of this disc and truthfully nothing gets me the pure distance this disc does.

Honestly I bought my first one just for the novelty of having such a fast disc.  I didn't think I'd actually use it in my bag.  But don't let the speed fool you, it's actually a lot more user-friendly than I expected it to be.  It is very controlable throwing it backhand, and for me is nowhere near as overstable as the charts suggest; it actually flies very straight.

If I had one complaint, it would be that the disc is somehwat sensitive when thrown forehand (I throw both RHBH and RHFH).  If the disc is not thrown perfectly level it has a high chance of rolling over or getting too much turn.

I am very happy with this disc and have since boughten several.  Highly recommended.

I have the Deco dye gold line version (limited edition) and found that it was about the same glide as the D1. However this disc fights the wind much better than a D1. For my arm I would place it between the Halo and the Stilletto.

The video review of this disc is dead on.  I don't have a huge are, but I can usally handle a stable disc (expect a Diablo DT, that thing is a monster).  I throw this a little high on my body and get a little bit of turn, about 1 or -.05.  From there is will S out and fade hard but still carry some forward.  I like it because it holds a line well for such a high speed driver but stays low.