TLDR: This is THE DISC I would recommend to any new or intermediate player when they ask the age old question online or in person: "Hey Man. What’s the best disc to get the most distance?" This is that disc! You know what I'm sayin! Or the River is a close second, haha.
Beginners and intermediate players don’t know how to throw properly. It’s just a fact. If you can’t throw 400-500’ with smooth tempo, then you don’t know how to throw well yet. You’re doing stuff wrong. And in that case, this disc WILL be the longest disc you can buy or throw. Fact. The 7 glide, the rim shape and size, and the -2 turn and 1 fade, and it's flight path all combine to make this the PERFECT disc for 90% of all disc golfers to buy as their first Distance driver. Sure, everyone thinks they can throw great and want to get a Destroyer or Wraith or Cloudbreaker, etc, because their favorite pro throws one. But the facts are simple, you don’t have the mechanics and ability to throw those discs the way they were meant to be thrown and the distance they are meant to be thrown. This disc IS meant for people that are just starting out or only a few years in.
I have a Goldline 176g and an Opto 174g. The Goldine is my turnover/roller/hyzer flip disc, and the Opto is like my long FH disc.
The Goldline is a beautiful plastic that is opaque and just stunning in person to see. It has a bit of a sheen or almost metallic like glint in the baby blue plastic. And the feel is top notch. It’s like S line or Star, but better. A lot like K1 from Kastaplast. It’s very durable, yet has some give and flex to it, but not so much that it’s soft. The rim shape is amazing, and it’s a moderately domey top.
When throwing this disc now, vs when I first started, it’s totally different. I used to throw this straight with a baby fade. Now that I’m throwing better and farther, have better technique and much smoother, it’s more of a turn over or roller disc. Also can throw it somewhat straight if I get it on a steep hyzer and it flips up to flat, glides forever, then gently comes back to the middle. But normally how I use it now is for a long FH shot (as I don’t have the ability yet to throw 300+ FH drives regularly). I start it on a hyzer and kind of high out left. It quickly flips up to flat, gains height, and then just glides all day gently out right until it eventually comes to a soft landing. Some of my longest drives ever have been with this disc. But, at this point, it’s more of utility disc. I don’t play many holes where I can try a roller or need it. And only 1-2 drives a rd do I need it at my local course. I’d say this disc is THE DISC any beginner or intermediate should get for their distance drives. If you have decent technique and throw flat to slight hyzer, it will be your longest disc, no question about it. And even once you start throwing far enough, that it becomes a turn over/roller disc, it’s still super helpful and crazy long still. This disc and the River are by far the two discs with THE most glide I’ve ever used. It’s not even close! Other super glidey discs are like 2 away from this thing. So if for ex Discmania claims their FD is glide 6, then this thing would be an 8! It has that much glide to it! It’s silly sometimes how far it keeps going when you thought it was going to land.
The Opto on the other hand is now much more used then when I first started playing. It’s basically the same flight path, but just not as sharp and as quick. And I'd say the #s on it are what Lat 64 claim: 7/7/-2/1. It's just a touch less glide than the Goldine. Since it's a stiffer more OS plastic, I have to throw it on a slight hyzer or flat for it to turn over all the way. If I throw it on a medium or steep hyzer, it’s a sweet hyzer flip disc! And then of course, I can still use it as a turnover or roller disc as well. So the Opto is now in my bag permanently as my least understable FW in my bag, with the Goldline retired.
And one of the great things about this disc is HOW EASY it is to get distance with it. The 7 glide almost makes it like a cheat code or something! SOOOO easy to get good distance and with ease. And the best thing about this disc and why I ALWAYS recommend it for beginners as their longest disc is the glide, turn and fade. Beginners and bad intermediates obviously have poor technique. And 99% of the time, they throw a disc, it’s too high, nose up and fades hard left. So they start developing unconscious “fixes” to be able to throw a disc that is way out of their skill level. When if they would just throw this instead, the 7 glide would keep it in the air WAY longer than any disc they have. The -2 turn would get the disc going a bit straighter or even a touch of turn right, and then 1 fade would then bring it back softly. All combing to give you that soft S flight path, which means the disc is in the air the longest amount of time, which means it’s the longest disc you’ll throw. Too many beginners and even intermediates think their good enough to throw discs over 7 speed, and that’s categorically wrong. A speed 7 disc like a Maul or River WILL be the longest disc for you, and what you should be throwing as your "distance" driver. Fact. Not to say you shouldn't or can't throw a higher speed disc and do well with it. But it's just simple physics. If you can't throw 400-500', this disc will be the longest disc you'll have in your bag.
The only thing it doesn't do well is fight wind. And that is obviously not a fault of the disc as it is an understable disc. And understable discs are not meant to do well in crosswinds or headwinds. But in a tailwind, watch out! This thing can fly like an Aerobie! haha
Can’t recommend this disc enough for beginner/intermediates as your distance driver or at the very least (if you have decent form) your super long understable FW (FH distance replacement disc). And just FYI, the Lat 64 River is basically the same disc, just straighter with less turn. So if you're concerned about the -2 turn, the River is straighter. The Maul and River are the two best distance discs for all beginners and players that throw 350' or less.