Took me a while to get used to the Havoc. My gold line flies more under stable than I originally thought it would. It's my roller disc (rarely ever throw those), and I can crush this bad boy 450' on a hyzer flip shot. I used it for big distance 521' one time, and backhand turnover throws.

Excellent for Sidearm Drives

I am primarily a sidearm drive kind of guy. In the past I've been a huge fan of TeeDevils from Innova, however those were discontinued in good plastic. I ended up switching to the Havoc and it did not disappoint. This disc has just the right amount of under stability to make it the main distance driver for an intermediate player. I was able to use this disc for everything from hyzer flips to s-flexes to simple hyzer distance shots. If you put the time in to control your angles, the Havoc will reward you.

The gold line plastic has tons of grip and just the right amount of flex. It lasts for quite a while, but eventually most Havoc's turn into rollers. So buy a new one every once in a while to see if yours is still stable enough.

As an intermediate lefty forehand player, I find this disc to be incredibly underrated. I can flick this disc a good 250-300 feet with a laser straight, low line without flexing or fading much at all. With backhand shots, this is the longest driver I have by nearly 50 feet. I throw it on a slight hyzer and it flips up to glide dead straight until it gradually fades at the end. While the flight numbers may be inaccurate for some, they needn't discredit the amazing flight characteristics the havoc exhibits in real life. 

173G Gold Line Havoc. I acquired this disc hoping it would be my slightly understable distance driver, and it has filled that spot exactly. It isnt understable enough to be a roller disc (unlessyou really force it) yet. I use it for those long drives that I need to finish dead straight or slightly to the right RHBH. I highly recommend this disc for beginners on up.

I got the havoc because I was looking for something that would flip a little but still be able to come back for me after going a long ways. That is exactly what this disc does and I couldn't be any happier with it. The disc is quite understable, so I could see why it not be the best disc for those with bigger arms. I am looking forward to being able to try this disc as a roller, after watching some of the pros use it as such I think it would be a great disc to try to learn to use it for.

While the disc doesn't work for everybody, it is a wonderful disc for those with slower arms that want some good distance. The rim is a little smaller than I like on my distance drivers, but it isn't so small that it feels bad in the hand. I think for anybody trying to step up into a higher speed disc this is a great option. It is more consistent than I had with the king or the bolt, and I think that it is a fantastic choice all around

The Havoc is my go-to distance driver when wind is a factor. I don't have the most powerful arm, so I need something with enough stability that it won't turn over in the wind, but not so overstable that a flat release hyzers out early. The Havoc is that perfect middle ground for me. A Havoc in weights above 165 grams are almost too overstable for my arm speed, but weights below 165 aren't dependable enough in the wind. With a flat release and good form, I'm able to coax a little turn out of it and get the Havoc out in the 350' range, or longer on flex shots.

I've seen guys with a lot of power really bomb this disc over 400' into the wind on hyzer flips. That's not something I can do, but the Havoc is very capable of such feats depending on the chucker.

I own the Havoc in multiple plastics. Opto seems to be the most stable, Gold line is kind of perfect, and Frost might even be a little flippy for big arms. I'd recommend Frost or Gold Line in weights around 165g for humans with regular arm speed looking to disc up.

I love, love, LOVE this disc!  I have it in a variety of plastics, but Gold Line is my favorite.  Gold Line does beat in pretty quick, but with disc I enjoy that.  I have 3 different Havoc's at different levels of beat-in-ness that I use for different shots.  My most beat in one is pretty flippy (almost roller) and it does some awesome hyzer flips and still gets major distance.  My least beat in one is more overstable- it bombs straight forever and then dumps off left with it's 3 Fade.

I've been able to get this disc further than any others I have thrown, it's so awesome!  

5 Stars. I love my Havocs. For me it's right in between the Bolt and the Halo. I think it's a little more flippy then the description states. The Havoc is a Bomber once you've dialed it in. I feel like it's a little slower than some 13 speeds, but is still plenty fast. It has an early turn, and can definitely flip over if you over power it, or release it wrong. It's a disc you need to get to know, but what I like most about it is that I can lean on it pretty hard and rip it hard knowing it will flip, and glide for days with a solid finish. Some discs you worry about flipping too much, some don't flip enough, but for me the Havoc is just right. 

I have this disc in 165 grams. This disc goes far on hyzeys, annhyzers, and just straight shots. Beautiful fliying discs. Would recommend to all ages because of versatility. 

This disc is phenomenal! As stated before by a few players, this disc does need some snap. That being said, I have two opto 174 Havocs as my main drivers, and a gold line 171 I use to flip hard. I love the consistency I'm able to achieve with my 174 opto. I'll throw a RHBH drive, and she seems to fly into the horizon. If you've got the arm and a flat release, expect it to turn right on a big throw, then flip back and fade true. The flight chart shown above is very accurate, and illustrate exactly what my havocs do on my max drives (350-370 feet). Expect Gold plastic to be more stable. I have to be careful to not overthrow my 171 gold, as it breaks right with just a touch of arm, but comes in handy as a backhand alternative to my forehand flicks with my opto flow. In conclusion,- If you've got the arm to throw, and you're on the fence about weather to give the Havoc a run... Do yourself a favor and just get it and start hukin'!

just got offered one of these at my local disk golf course and turned it down. Now that i red some reviews on it about glide i wish i would have bought it.

This disc is one of my farthest flying discs. I can really, really bomb this disc. Mine is gold line max weight. I absolutely love this disc. I will be buying more of this disc. It is definitely a disc for big arms, but the Goldline isn't as overstable as you would think. It will fly and fly and fly. It's super fast. Has a tremendous glide. When you really put a rip on this disc you might swear is has some kind of propulsion system. BOOOOOM! One of my favorite discs. Get one...or 10

Definitely my go-to driver. I have the gold line plastic, and there isn't a single major mark on it. It flies more consistently than any other driver I use, and stays in the air for what seems like FOREVER. I'd definitely recommend it to someone who has the arm strength to let it rip.