This disc is awesome. The hand feel is better than most utility drivers (firebird, raptor, felon). It isn't as over stable as many people want. However, this is an extremely useful disc. I use it more than I use my other utility discs because the stability is a bit more manageable for my arm speed. If I would put this stability between a DGA banzai and a Dynamic Discs felon. The disc feels extremely comfortable on forehand and backhand.

When I picked this disc up I instantly thought about the Firebird or the Raptor with how it felt and it just doesn't fly like that at all. I think it flies more like a Thunderbird. With the numbers saying that it is a 0 turn and 3 fade, I feel as if it flies more of a -1 turn with a 2 fade. Mine doesn't have too much-left fade, but it likes to hold the turn when I throw it flat—great disc for tailwind bombers.

One of my favorite discs in terms of hand feel. Sits just right in my slightly stubby fingers for backhands and forehands. My 177g hyper diamond is beefy and good for reliable hookshots, max-torque forehands, and skips quite nicely. Good overstable plastic, but is a bit too slick for my liking on forehands. My 174g diamond one (fully opaque version of diamond from mystery box, more like a Star plastic) has been beat in over a year and flies more like 9/4/-1/3. My max drive is like 325, and even on a backhand I can get a gentle turn out of it. It's my workhorse driver. If you like the demon, you'll like the blade too.