*NOTE* I only give 5-stars out to discs that I bag and throw actively. A 4-star disc is great. It may come in and out of the bag for me, but I could see another player actively bagging it.

The H9 plastic looks and feels great. I am a sucker for pretty discs and is one of the prettiest and most unique looking discs I have in my collection. I found that I was getting a little bit of turn out of the Cinder, but was never concerned with it burning over. The Cinder feels good in the hand and I can see players with a lower arm speed really trusting on the overstable finish. I found that the Cinder would always finish, but never truly 'dump'. My best comparison would be a beat-in Athena or Teebird. Right out of the box this has a very workable flight. 

This is one of the best golf discs on the market. The flight is reliable with good glide and light fade, the hand feel is great, and the plastic is the best in the game. I would compare the plastic to Kastaplast's K1 and the flight to a lightly seasoned color glow Teebird. If you want a great disc nobody else is throwing, this is the disc for you.

The Obsidian Discs Cinder is a quality stable flying control driver. This disc is in that perfect stability that it provides premier consistency. On a flat release it goes straight, glides well, and then has a moderate fading dump at the end of the flight. Obsidian K9 plastic is the real deal. This plastic looks and feels great. 

If you're looking for a stable driver and want something different than what everyone else on the course throws, try the Obsidian Discs Cinder.