I'm really glad I gave this disc a shot. Felt it up at a local shop, thought it felt pretty good. I still wasn't sure I would like its flight, but to say I was pleasantly surprised frankly wouldn't go far enough as to how much I liked it! It flies awesome!! I was throwing both forehand and backhand on multiple angles with multiple directions of moderate wind. This disc handled any reasonable situation I tested it with with flying colors. Great backhand hyzer lines, flat throws that were dependably straight to fade or a fairly mild turn then fade, with the fade never being dumpy but still predictable. It won't go super far like an Envy that's been ripped, but it gets respectable distance. I tested it against some other fairly neutral 3 speed throwers I have including a Star Classic Roc, G Star Tomb, Z Ringer (regular top), and Proton Atom. The only disc it didn't consistently beat in distance was the Atom; they were fairly comparable. This disc also doesn't need as much height as some putters to operate well. I was able to keep it on fairly low lines either flat or with slight hyzer and count on it to net good distance and land within acceptable range of the target I was aiming at. For forehands this disc won't handle a lot of torque, but as long as you keep your form smooth you can count on decent flip up turn and fade shots from hyzer, and turning shots that hold the turn a bit longer from flat. I felt that the disc was overall wonderfully predictable and forgiving, both requisite qualities for a workhorse approach disc.  This one's going in the bag, at the very least for an extended test run. I feel like Discraft made a gem here.