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    Axiom Plasma - Axiom Envy

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    This putter has the reputation of being the disc James Conrad threw in on hole 18 at the 2021 World Championships for the "holy shot." It's widely known as one of the best throwing putters ever made, and works well for putting as well. Brand new, this disc sports some fade at the end of its flight, but will beat in very nicely to fly dead straight. This disc will hold any line and take as much power as you can give it, all while being a masterful approach disc for touch shots. The profile is a little thinner, and as a 3 speed putter, will fly faster and a little further than many other putters.

    With his new sponsorship, Eagle McMahon will now utilize the Envy as one of his team series discs. 

    Manufacturer Flight Numbers 3.0/3.0/0.0/2.0
    Reviewer Flight Numbers 3/3.1/-0.1/1.9
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    Plasma - Axiom Details

    Axiom Plasma is a premium plastic blend that combines performance with a stunning metallic sheen. Plasma plastic has slightly better grip than Neutron plastic and stans somewhere between neutron and neutron soft in terms of softness and flexibility. 

    Envy Dimensions

    • Diameter: 21.00 cm
    • Height: 1.80 cm
    • Rim Depth: 1.40 cm
    • Rim Width: 1.10 cm
    • Max Weight: 174g

    Additional Information

    • Primary Use: Putt & Approach
    • Stability: Overstable
    • Recommended Skill Level: Everyone
    • Plastic grade(s): Air Bubbles, Double Mold, Midgrade, Premium
    • Beadless

    Reviews

    Daniel New
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/-0.5/1.5 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Feb 28, 2024 10:01 AM

    The best driving/throwing putter on the market. Dead straight with just a touch of fade. The plasma plastic feels great in the hand and produces clean releases nearly every time. The depth on this putter is just perfect for throwing.

    Taylor Boudreaux
    My Flight Ratings: 3/4/-0.5/1.5 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jul 20, 2023 09:15 AM

    This disc deserves the hype. It is so easy to throw and I have so much control of it. I am always able to get sneaky distance with it. It may be the plasma plastic but mine felt much less stable than I expected, but that does not discount how good the disc is.

    Seth
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 13, 2023 12:55 PM

    Out of the box, the Envy is incredibly over stable. Beat in a bit, the Envy becomes an approach disc with reliable fade. It feels great in the hand forehand or backhand.  The Envy admirably fills the over stable approach and wind fighting putter spot in my bag. 
    As an added bonus, the disc looks really great too!

    Tyler Wenli
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 N/A Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jan 27, 2023 07:58 AM

    This disc exudes confidence. I'm consistently impressed with the quality of approach shots I'm able to throw with it, especially for the low ceiling scrambles and other situations which aren't so easily solved with an upshot. I prefer the Luna off the tee most of the time because it's a bit more glidey and I lack the power to throw the Envy far, but for any shot which calls for an approach under 200 feet, the Envy shines above any other disc I've thrown. The James Conrad worlds hype genuinely has some truth to it: this disc is a throw-in machine.

    jaybird
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Dec 28, 2022 11:40 AM

    Ever since I started playing, I have struggled to find a throwing putter that I was happy with. I could not figure out why I didn't like them until I picked up an Envy. The Envy is much more shallow than a typical putter, thus I get a much cleaner release with it, and you can easily power this up and get it past 200 feet without it flipping on you. This is a stable mid-range, in the form of a putter. Base plastic will allow some flip, premium plastic is stable, thus this is the only approach disc I feel the need to bag. 

    I struggle to believe that there is a better throwing putter on the market.

    Mel Doomis
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Sep 10, 2022 16:19 PM

    I grabbed an Envy in Plasma plastic mainly to be used off the tee on shorter holes. I needed something I could throw full power and hold a line without too much fade or glide. I couldn't be happier with my choice. The disc itself is an orange and yellow multicolor dye with glitter and looks absolutely amazing. I don't usually comment on appearance but it's now the nice looking disc in my bag, so it's worth mentioning. 

    It performs exactly as I expected. Nice when thrown hard and shouldn't get away from you. The shape of the edge is a little different and may take some getting used to. This shape and plastic choice make less beginner friendly imo. I likely wont use it for anything within a 100 feet and have go to putters I prefer when within putting distance. Overall a pretty cool disc worth adding to the collection even just to show off once and while!. 

    Jack
    Jack (Reader, Professional) Plasma - Axiom
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Apr 11, 2022 12:42 PM

    The Axiom Envy excels when thrown with high velocity down fairways. My favorite attribute of the Envy is it's tendency to "fall" out of the sky without any amount of significant turn or any fade at the end of it's flight. I am able to put maximum power into a flat, straight shot and this disc won't deviate in it's flight path until it runs out of speed and drops straight to the ground. This makes it a very accurate point-and-shoot option in your bag because you don't need to account for any left or right movement when planning your shot down a fairway. The less variables you have to deal with the better.

    With power, the Envy will hold the line you put it on. a hyzer will stay on a hyzer line. An anhyzer will stay on an anhyzer line and slowly pan out to flat if you give it enough air space. 

    When thrown with low power, it can be good option for a short overstable approach shot if you don't want something that will immediately act like a meat hook. When thrown with touch, the Envy can help you push straight through skinny, tight fairways while maintaining a predictable finish. Just make sure not to roll your wrist over or because it doesn't have the stability to account for it. 

    I bag three Envy plastics. I find the plasma version to be the straightest and most underrated option. The above paragraphs describe the plasma plastic most accurately. If you are looking for a more stable option, go with the neutron plastic. It will give you more of a fading finish to the flight rather than dropping straight to the ground. If you are looking for an understable James Conrad-esque option, go with the electron plastic. The electron plastic beats in quickly and will allow you to shape turnover shots that will make your friends call you the second coming of disc golf jesus.

     

    Jack
    My Flight Ratings: 3.5/3/0/1.5 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jan 30, 2022 13:08 PM

    TLDR: The best overall straight driving putter on the market. Different plastics different stabilities. Feels incredible in the hand for most (all?) hand sizes both FH and BH. Even if you don't bag- it's super fun to throw.

    Feel: Flat top with smooth, curvy edges. The depth is fantastic, not too deep or shallow. The inner rim is angled outwards SLIGHTLY. Just enough to help with a smooth release, and smooth release it does. I can't overstate how good it feels in hand for any grip type. It's easily in my top 3 "best feeling molds" of all time.

    Flight: For the premium plastics, you can go full send and they will fly true to the flight numbers. For the electron plastics, it will become a disc that can hyzer flip a bit to eventually be a slow turn over disc that finishes right (RHBH). I think it's a bit faster than a 3 speed, 3.5 or 4 would be a bit more accurate I think. It's such a straight flyer that you can put it on any line successfully. 10/10 flight.

    This one is easy to recommend. All axiom/mvp plastic feels great to me. The envy in my bag is plasma, a version of neutron. Premium and baseline plastics from axiom/mvp are amazing no matter which variant you go with.

    Ron
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Dec 27, 2021 17:35 PM

    There are two ultra hyped discs that I have tried that actually lived up to the reputation so far -- the envy and the zone. The envy will not disappoint. Just do yourself a favor and grab one. If you are a new player this is a great disc to just get one and go play as a start. It's not as finicky as some other putters so it'll be less frustrating, and it's a disc you will never stop having use for. 

    Erich
    Erich (Reader, Advanced) Plasma - Axiom
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Nov 08, 2021 00:19 AM

    The plasma Envy is my absolute favorite throwing putter. I use it from 200-290ft when I need a dead straight shot that won't turnover and will fade on shorter flights or land flat and straight on longer ones. This isn't to say the envy isn't great in all its plastics, it is. But plasma feels great in my hand and releases smoothly every time. The envy can take a lot of power and torque but shines when thrown smoothly. Its a workhorse that I don't think will ever leave my bag.

    tlindgren17
    My Flight Ratings: 3/4/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Nov 21, 2020 14:39 PM

    As an experienced player I have never found a disc that flies so straight. Now keep in mind this is in plasma plastic, it would be different if you threw an envy in proton plastic, as it would be more overstable. Although I can say in plasma.. the envy is a very straight flying disc. once it's beat in a little bit I figure it only flies straighter. My beat and plasma will fly about 400ft straight, it'll go slightly to the right for about 80% of its flight and then fade back into the lines release point, making it a super straight disc. I figure once it gets beat in quite a bit the plasma plastic will eventually make the Envy a bit under stable, but for having one for two years as a frequent player, I have yet to have this problem. I love the feel of this disc, it's very slim compared to others. I feel it gives quite a bit more glide than stated since I can throw it straight, 3 feet off the ground, and it'll fly forever. I highly recommend this in your bag, you won't regret it. I bought it strictly to use as a utility but after throwing it, it's a very well used disc in my bag for low shots, controlled hyzers, and just overall distance for long and controlled approaches. since I've had this disc I've barely rarely used my mid ranges, except for my eMac truth and buzzz. 

    Peter Monk
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jun 07, 2020 15:31 PM

    The Envy is considered one of the best, if not the best, driving putters in disc golf. It reliably provides a consistent flight. It you throw it reasonably well it will neither stray to right (assuming your right-handed) and dump nor will it dump hard to the left. It is straight with a predictable forward fade. What is truly nice is that it merely needs to be thrown reasonably well. Other driving putters seem to need to be highly finessed to get the flight you want out of them.

    The Plasma Envy I have looks good. Maybe that is important to you, maybe not. It costs more than other companies discs, but you will also pay more for their premium versions too. I simply see it as an acceptable price for a disc that delivers in performance and looks good out on the course. 

    logananderson
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 26, 2020 14:31 PM

    I just started playing a few months ago and I'm so glad I found out about this disc so soon. I absolutely love how it flies. I have read a lot of reviews for this disc and most everyone uses it as a throwing putter only. I can only agree that this is a fantastic throwing putter and one that will help anyone get better, no matter the skill level. Though, I also really enjoy putting with this disc, I can control it better than my other putters and the in hand feel is fantastic. I have 2 in different plastics, one in plasma for drives and approaches, and one in electron firm for putting. I can't recommend this disc enough for anyone to try out and get better!

    Shane
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 21, 2020 15:18 PM

    The envy is one of most popular throwing putters out there, and for good reason.  It's overstable and torque-resistant enough to resist turning over, but has a forward push rather than dumping out of the sky.  The envy is perfect for any putter shot that needs to go super straight for the majority of the flight and then have a moderate fade.  The disc is very flat and feels good for both power grips and modified fan grips.

    Will Mullinix
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/-0.5/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Apr 28, 2020 07:12 AM

    My favorite driving putter that I have tried. The Envy holds an extremely predictable line with slight turn at the end. I love the plasma plastic from Axiom, and the flat top of the disc is great for ripping it! This is my go to disc for driving 275ft and under and even makes a decent putting disc as well. Though the plasma plastic is less grippy, I like to break out the Envy when i want to hyzer putt

    Anthony Scolaro
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/-0.5/1.5 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Mar 28, 2020 18:46 PM

    What a great putter. In Plasma at 169g it threw my Pa3 out of the bag. It's perfect for drives and is amazing straight at puts up to 30 ft. After that power up or a little anhyser and your making a run at the basket. Grab one today, you won't regret it. 

    John Gorgos
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jan 27, 2020 16:02 PM

    If you are new to Axiom putters, just know that the outer rim plastic on this Plasma Envy is champion plastic-like with a stiff/slippery type feel. 

    If you are looking for a softer, chain grabbing plastic on the outer rim,  look at the Electron plastic. 

    Ryan Frazee
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jan 18, 2020 09:36 AM

    bought a 175 gram plasma. This disc is fantastic for tee shots and for upshots. This disc has great control for when I need to go around 200+ and need to get slightly right. I always go with this disc. You can rip this disc and it will not turn over. I grabbed several MVP's & Axioms and I am  starting to love all of them but this disc has replaced my harp which I thought would not happen. However my harp is very beat in and tends to just stay straight. This disc can take a beating in the Plasma plastic and keep it's fade. 

    Scot Ranney
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/1 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jul 21, 2019 11:53 AM

    This is for a 169g Plasma Envy.

    I picked this up because I wanted something a little less beefy feeling than my 171g Axiom Alias.

    When the Envy arrived I spent several days doing one disc rounds with it.

    First, what really surprised me was how my snap putts started hitting the chains and dropping in from 20 to 40 feet with more regularity than ever before. The Envy simply goes straight. I didn't even buy this for putting but it has replaced my Banger GT for nearly every putt (unless I need to weave inside trees, the Banger floats nicely for those.)

    For mid range shots up to around 275' this disc does exactly what you tell it to. I tend to keep my mid range shots fairly low so the fade doesn't often come into play which is why I think of it more as a fade 1 than a fade 2. If you sky it out it will sharply fade at the end, but put a good nose down smash on this disc and it will carry any line you put on it.

    Straight shots go straight and then die with very little fade.

    Anhyzers hold the line into the dirt, or if I really sky an anny out it might get a little fade glide at the end.

    It holds a hyzer  line like it's drawn on paper.

    I'm not a great side arm player, but one of my buddies who is tried it for a round and was loving it for his side arms. He ordered one later that same day. His shots were doing whatever he wanted- straight, anny, and hyzer lines were as solid as they were with his side arm as they were for my back hand.

    I use the Envy for just about everything 250' and under and it hasn't disappointed me. Now that I've been using one for a few weeks I'm definitely a convert and totally grok why people are gushing about it. If you get one and don't like it (not likely) you'll easily be able to sell it to one of your buddies.

    I'm thinking of getting one in Proton plastic for the extra stability to fight out of anny lines a bit more.

    One more note. This is my first disc in Plasma plastic and I love the feel. It's a great mix between fission/neutron/proton plastic. Great grip, soft enough to feel the flex, easy to get a nice smooth rip. Also doesn't hurt that it is beautiful, one of the coolest looking plastics I've seen, sort of a velvety/pearl-ish look that also reminds me of polished teak wood (the plastic almost has grains in it.)

    Isaac Keinonen
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Apr 25, 2019 14:25 PM

    I bought one of these in Plasma and played a heap of one-disc rounds with it when I was first learning better form and this disc taught me release angle, nose anglegrip and power that using a bunch of random discs never could, elevating me out of beginner territory.

    It's got enough stability to handle being a driving putter and makes for a good approach disc too but I would use it less for putts. 

    If released straight and flat you can rip pretty hard without having it turn and burn on you.
    If released on a high anny it will fight back right at the end.
    If released on a hyzer it will hold it the whole way.

    I normally throw it at near full power with a fan grip off the tee and get about 60m (200ft) of straight flight and then another 10-15m (35ft) of gentle fade. 

    I have my Plasma Envy beaten in a bit that is straight with very gentle fade now, and a much newer Eclipse Envy which is more overstable, still straight but with slightly less turn and a slightly harder fade, more trustworthy in a headwind. 

    billdiscus
    My Flight Ratings: 2/3/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jul 17, 2018 15:18 PM

    This is a wonderful disc no matter what plastic you get in. I use Med Electron for putting in the circle and Plasma for driving. Plasma tends to lean more to the straight-stable side and will not fade as hard at the end. Soft Neutron tends to be the most OS of the plastics for this mold. There is a reason this is the most popular Axiom disc. Try it and you'll see :)

    Dustin Goad
    My Flight Ratings: 2/3/0/2 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jul 11, 2018 16:54 PM

    This putter has changed my game. Anything 200 in is an easy go to for my backhand. I really love it for forehand flick upshots!

    Ryan Burgess
    My Flight Ratings: 3/4/-0.5/1.5 Very Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 29, 2018 22:43 PM

    Absolute favorite putter. Goes really far, very reliable.

    Noah Kandler
    My Flight Ratings: 3/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    May 12, 2018 14:03 PM

    I’ll admit, I purchased my first Envy due to online feedback and how great it looked in plasma at the local shop. The hype online was spot on though.

    OS enough to fade in well on a low powered approach, but dead straight when given some power, it soon became my go-to for drives off the tee. Replacing my Aviar3 very quickly.

    I can’t emphasis how amazing this disc is for flick approaches. 

     

    Jaryd Dutton
    My Flight Ratings: 2/3/0/2 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Feb 21, 2017 16:29 PM

    My favorite disc for under 200 ft.  The Envy will hardly ever turn, even when thrown 300 ft.  It will glide along any line at high speed with little regard to the wind.  It has an uncanny ability to avoid lift in a headwind when released anywhere close to flat.  The Envy tends to drop quickly once it begins to fade.  It provides excellent distance control for landing within your putting circle in any weather.  It has a shallow rim and a micro bead that provides a very clean release for BH and FH in my experience.  I own 3 Plasma Envys, and one of each of the other 3 plastics the Envy is produced in.  My main plasma envy has been my go-to approach disc for 200+ rounds, and it flies nearly identical to the brand new one I bought in the same weight and plastic.  The flight pattern is comparable to the MVP Matrix but at a much lower speed.  Some have called it a Gyro Harp, but I find harps are more overstable than the Envy.  When compared to a Gateway Wizard it has considerably less glide, a touch more stability and fade.   I prefer the Wizard within the circle in perfect conditions, but the envy is the best putter for windy days that I've come across.  An amazing disc that I will continue to carry in every bag for years.

    Plasma :  Fantastic grip.  A slightly soft feel in hand while being firm enough to maintain high speed stability.  Noticeably stiffer than Soft Neutron yet softer than the others.  A bit more glide than Proton/Neutron.

    Proton : Slightly more fade than other plastics.  The feel is slick and can be tough to throw consistently when it's not dry.  The most durable plastic, but the durability of Plasma and Neutron are quite impressive as well.   Similar to Champion or Elite Z.

    Neutron :  Firmer than Plasma yet softer than Proton.  Provides the same glide as Proton.

    Soft Neutron  Very flexible plate.  Once you throw it beyond 100 ft it will turn over while the other plastics do not.  I would rate the turn of Soft Neutron at -0.5.  The turn adds glide, but reduces reliability.  The added flex absorbs a lot of energy to help it stop nearby on impact.  I usually only reach for it under 100 ft through trees where avoiding a ricochet down a big hill or into water hazard is a priority.  I often don't need it at all, but it can save a stroke once in a while.

    Don't let a Soft Neutron be the only Envy you own if you buy one.  I'd recommend Plasma, but Proton and Neutron each hold their own.

    beckc3
    My Flight Ratings: 3/4/0/1.5 Somewhat Beginner Friendly Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Jan 18, 2017 11:00 AM

    This putter has changed my game. Anything 200 in is an easy go to for my backhand. I'm still working on my forehand flicks. This disc gave me the reliability, confidence, and consistency to lay up from a couple hundred feet out. Off the teepad I can almost get it 300. WOW!!

    Matt Matt
    Matt Matt (Reader, Beginner) Plasma - Axiom
    My Flight Ratings: 4/4/0/2 Neutral Throwing Distance: N/A Straight Score: N/A

    Aug 24, 2016 18:06 PM

    All I have to say about this putter is that it is awesome. That being said I love it for regular putting. I love it for approach shots and I love it for driving  holes around 200 ft this thing will hold any line you want to throw it on. If feels great in the hand it has a flat profile and not a very deep rim. If your looking for a work horse putter/mid range disc I highly recommend this disc

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